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Counter-Strike: Source

Source bigger than 1.6?

Yes, it's true! Recently Counter-Strike: Source overtook its predecessor Counter-Strike 1.6 with more players playing according to the statistics on Steampowered.

The tip in the balance of statistics was noticed a month ago by Swedish scene site Rakaka.se and still holds true today - Source now has more active players than 1.6.

What does this mean for the future of both games and eSports?

For 1.6 the only way is down, but whether it will lead to a further rise in Source remains to be seen. With many more games on the market today than in the past, the numbers leaving 1.6 are not all going to it's sequel.

eSports is still dominated by 1.6 tournaments with only CGS committed fully to Source, thought with a dwindling player base other organisers will almost certainly eventually move to Source.

TheRogue, Friday, 15/08/08 15:53


comments ( 13 )
30/08/08 12:47 #1 MiNT ritch	cy@
30/08/08 13:19 #2 RSG Completely Mad Lee	Goodbye graphics from 1980s, hello new world.
30/08/08 15:16 #3 rf. menengroth	about time like
30/08/08 18:41 #4 [-_-] mikeE	safe
31/08/08 13:06 #5 pedobear	lovely
01/09/08 22:08 #6 buyakacha	goddbye well made game, hello new worlds noobish game
04/09/08 19:18 #7 mugNmouse Skyda	so i heard 150,000 1.6ers died over night yeahyeah
12/09/08 09:34 #8 DnB\| Ash.Uk	css rules :)
14/09/08 18:26 #9 T23000 spezZ	It's just Valve's way of saying, we want your $20! You gotta love them...
14/09/08 18:44 #10 infinityy	=)
14/09/08 18:46 #11 taMMi	perfect :)
15/09/08 13:17 #12 JAGER	http://www.gotfrag.com/cs/forums/thread/356520/ Yeah I made the other thread which kicked up some conspiracys about valve altering their statistics. After making a few posts on the steam forums I got a reply from a Moderator and a Valve employee which pretty much explains everything. Killah Instinct (Steam forums Moderator) : QUOTE:It's very hard to get an accurate number through any stats-page, this has to do with different methods, master servers and the various dimensions the data floats in. Am sure they Steam: Game page is accurate in it's own way, also note it doesn't really tell when those numbers where recorded - same applies to GameSpy (I doubt they are 'live'). For 3rd party mods, just look here (HL2) or here (HL1). There "here's" where hyper links to these websites HL1: http://www.amxmodx.org/newstats.php HL2: http://sourcemod.net/newstats.php note over 100,000 players playing on AMX servers alone ;) Jmccaskey (Valve employee) : QUOTE:The new stats on our page are based on users who are connected to Steam and what games they report to be playing via Steam. The stats at other places like GameSpy are based on querying our master servers which simply report whatever games servers have told them. These numbers can be incorrect in several ways. First, game servers sometimes misreport player stats in an attempt to lure players onto their server even though its actually empty. Second, they can be higher at times due to players who are not connected to Steam playing on VAC insecure servers. Third, the third party sites using the master server data sometimes misreport it because of problems like not including TF2 "custom" servers (and the players on them) in their numbers since they have not updated to support our recent changes to the master server protocol to split servers into standard and custom buckets. I have highlighted the important points he makes So basicly steam stats only take the data from people playing cs over steam and not from the actual game itself. People who play cs with a crack/don't use steam to play CS are not included in steam statistics (therefore actually hurting our representation) note the steam stats page actually says "View Steam players per game" Are Steam statistics accurate when it comes to steam users: Yes (Although it could be restricted to the people who run steam friends/steam community while playing Are Steam statistics accurate when it comes to representing the actual players playing a game: No game-monitor.com There are more 1.6 players than cs:s players sorry :P 2 edits edited by JAGER 15/09/08 14:18 edited by JAGER 15/09/08 14:19
16/10/08 13:38 #13 k--n	JAGER your comments are totally pointless. Ofcourse these are the stats that only steam servers gather only from steam players. Duh ? And ofcourse there may be some mistakes and some fake stats coming from those servers. Like all measuring systems these stats are not 100% accurate. You do not provide the main argument of your point - what makes you believe that there are more non steam cs players than there is non steam css players ? And that real situation differs in favor of cs server count and not otherwise ? Is it really so ? Where is the proof ? What makes you believe that the more misleading data comes from css servers and not cs servers ? 1 edits edited by k--n 16/10/08 15:38