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03/02/06 19:34 #1
D3C4t(Archived)
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Moon is gonna own grubby if they play against each other
GOGO MYM
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06/02/06 16:10 #2
 Dop3f1sH(Archived)
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Moon vs Grubby and Lucifer vs ToD is thanks.
T.MH 3-2 4K. The Kings MUST fall.
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07/02/06 03:36 #3
ParesSe(Archived)
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ToD vs moon & Grubby vs Luci should be more balanced :))
4K FTW ! 4-1
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08/02/06 07:37 #4
Vollmilch(Archived)
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FoV vs Moon
Grubby vs Lucifer
ToD vs Susiria
Zeus vs Storm
Gogo make it real NuKe :O
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13/02/06 02:42 #5
 BeLjoNe(Archived)
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Deciding match of the season ix title... can't wait... 3:2 either way...gl hf
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16/02/06 00:37 #6
Battle-ger-mage(Archived)
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Beat em up T.MH!!!
There it comes the time the kings MUST fall!
Gruby < Moon
Tod < Luzifer
Fov = Storm
Zeus < Susiria
Overall: 3-2 T.MH
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16/02/06 23:08 #7
up.toxiC(Archived)
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4K# 3-2 #MYM
This will be a very nice game night, but in the end 4K will win the whole game vs MYM. As I said before GruBBy/ToD is to strong in 2on2, so they will win it with easy results. GruBBy will have some problems with moon but I still think GruBBy will win over moon with 2-1 if they are going to meet in the matchup. ToD will sureley win over his opponent.
So gl hf 4K ftw!
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18/02/06 17:29 #8
 Dop3f1sH(Archived)
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#7 typical comment of a 4K fanboy
Grubby never won Moon before
ToD never won Lucifer before
FoV have the best chances to win from the 4K players.
2on2 is 50/50
Zeus/FuRy is defloss
but overall i would say T.MH have really good chances to win against 4K, if not them then nobody!!!
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18/02/06 17:36 #9
 Dop3f1sH(Archived)
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#7 typical comment of a 4K fanboy
Grubby never won Moon before and Moon raped him everytime they meet.
ToD never won Lucifer before and last season he lost 0-2 and 1-2 against Storm too.
FoV have the best chances to win from the 4K players, i could only imagine him losing to Moon in a VERY close series.
2on2 is 50/50, hands down. Lucifer/Susiria beat ReMinD/SoJu and they only lost to Grub/ToD last season because they played Orc/Orc in game 3 which was kinda dumb in such a important cw.
Zeus/FuRy is defloss for sure.
overall i would say T.MH have really good chances to win against 4K, if not them then nobody will!!!!
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19/02/06 22:23 #10
FaR4(Archived)
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linups for the win! nuke + luck rocks, so 5-0/4-1 4k
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20/02/06 23:54 #11
up.toxiC(Archived)
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Well, I still think ToD has become much more skilled since the last season. Just look how he took moon with 2-1 for about 1-2 moths ago. That is just unbeliveable ^^ well gogo 4K ftw!
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22/02/06 17:09 #12
Snoop(Archived)
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My Prediction for the War : 3-2/4-1 in favour of MyM.
Lucifer can win against every of 4K´s Players.
Moon will bash Grubby or ToD if he meets them, just FoV is able to own him, i think.
Susiria could also score a point against ToD or FoV and the 2on2 to will be hopefully won by MyM (saw Lucifer/Moon winning 3-0 against Grubby/ToD at Clanbase 2on2 Cup XII).
Hope this will be the first lose for 4k since a long time ( if we ignore the last wc3l Finals).
So gogo MyM ;D. MooN own them ;D
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22/02/06 17:30 #13
dReaM(Archived)
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3-2 for tmh :)
1st lose for 4K
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22/02/06 18:57 #14
Vekin(Archived)
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i hope 4k takes it, but i think mym is gonna win, cuz luci+moon owned grub+tod 3:0 :/
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23/02/06 00:12 #15
GroM(Archived)
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Hey Dopelfish, your a moron. Look at wc3l season 8 finals. They automatically gave away one point. Okay, so that resulted in every clan war being 3:2 (with one exception).
Meaning that Grub, and ToD can take a point from everyone 100% sure aside from Moon, as they have yet to play in wc3l. However, FoV will now be allowed to play, and him being the nightelf killer can easily take the point, even if 4K doesnt prepare their 2z (which obviously they will). So, either way 4K will win 3:2.
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23/02/06 23:40 #16
TeHaR(Archived)
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i would really cry if Nukes get this lineup:
FoV vs Moon
Grubby vs Lucifer
ToD vs Susiria
Zeus vs Storm
ToD/Grubby vs Lucifer/Susiria
thats a 5:0 ;)
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26/02/06 02:01 #17
 Dop3f1sH(Archived)
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#15 so? if you see it this way, T.MH lost two points as well, regarding the fact their (former) best player in Lucifer wasn't attending the finals. Now with him and Moon on the front things can and will look completely different.
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03/03/06 03:22 #18
 xioyux(Archived)
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3-2 or 4-1 4k, maybe even 5-0 4k if lineups are right
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14/03/06 01:31 #19
GroM(Archived)
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No they won't, 4K proved that they could win 3-1. (aside from one clan war), if moon/lucifer is a guarenteed point, thats like saying Grubby,Fov, and Tod are all guarenteed. There is no guarentees but 4K are in favour as ToD and FoV both can own moon.
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15/03/06 16:51 #20
 Dop3f1sH(Archived)
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I dont see ToD winning against either Moon, Storm (2-0 2-1 vs ToD last season) or Lucifer (UD > HU) in this war.
But we'll see. matchups will decide this war. they are all great players.
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19/03/06 23:44 #21
eXp.Ownage(Archived)
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guess it will be 3-2 or 2-3 : )
best lu for mym would be
moon 2:0 grubby
lucifer 2:0 tod
susiria 2:1 fov
storm 2:0 zeus
but thats not very realistic
it would also be good for 4k
moon 1:2 fov
susirua 0:2 grubby
lucifer 1:2 fov
storm 1:2 tod
this clanwar cannot be predicted without lineups
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24/03/06 11:56 #22
suxX.h4rd(Archived)
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exiting match :) i hope they will bring us the next replays of the month or better of the year. i sucess they will make the best line up so i dont care about this. i want see special tactics and not like other normal games =)! tower rush is in and lam0r tactics are becomming more and more greatfuler!!
so i hope no standart programm...
thats all i wanted to say :P sry 4 my english ^^
gl 4k & mym
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25/03/06 10:58 #23
pHyX(Archived)
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4K win 3:2
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25/03/06 16:04 #24
 xioyux(Archived)
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PLZ tod vs moon!!!
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26/03/06 11:33 #25
Horde(Archived)
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4 : 1 for 4K - only moon wins
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26/03/06 19:34 #26
FuX(Archived)
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3:2 for 4K nuke > nordahl
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27/03/06 03:14 #27
NefariousIndrid(Archived)
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i don't understand why people keep saying Storm will beat tod or zues.... has Storm even played a match this season?
3-2 T.MH] > 4k
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27/03/06 04:29 #28
 Nightrider(Archived)
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hm....hope to c moon vs grubby ^^
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27/03/06 09:54 #29
pikkugfani89(Archived)
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the best possible line up for 4k would imo be:
grubby vs luci (grubbys strongest match up)
tod vs EVE (tods strongest match up against myms weakest link)
fov vs storm (because ud > human)
zeus vs moon (moons worst match up)
the 2on2 is a coin toss.
if moon gets grubby and tod gets an ud i dont see 4k winning t_T
and wtf is everyone talking about "the first loss of 4k"? play.it beat them (without grubby) 4-1.
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27/03/06 11:05 #30
GamerNo1-(Archived)
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Grubby lost to Moon many times before. He will be more than motivated to take some revenge, so if Grubby Vs. Moon 2-1.
ToD developed hist skills quite fast, so he could take a 2-1. Not sure anyway.
Zeus simply plays godlike or newbstyle, no prediction in his games possible.
FoV may even take a 2-0 espacially if he faces Storm.
2on2 Autowin for 4K, sry but all korean Teams suck in 2on2, when it´s about bashing a good euro Team.
All in all a 3-2 4K. Euro power wins over korean merchants, nothing more satisfying than this.
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27/03/06 11:09 #31
Bad_Day_2fly(Archived)
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#30 hmm if we look at the most recently results of trans atlantic finals etc.. i dont think that the 2on2 will be a freewin for 4k :) especially not if they face moon//luci
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27/03/06 11:47 #32
redbull.amigo(Archived)
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Dop3f1sH Dont think that Moon&Lucifer is such imba...
Everything will depend on Lineups:
best lineup for TMH(4-1)
Lucifer 2 - 1 ToD
Moon 2 - 1 Grubby
Susiria 1 - 2 FoV
Storm 2 - 1 Zeus
Luci&Susi 2 - 1 Grubby&ToD
but it can be also (5-0 for 4k)
FoV 2 - 0 Moon
Grubby 2 - 1 Lucifer
ToD 2 - 1 vs Storm/Susi or ToD 2 - 0 vs EVE
Fury 2 - 1 Storm (coz of HU vs UD matchup)
Grubby&ToD 2 - 1 Luci&Susi
Can happen everithing but i am sure k will get at least 2 points!
BTW IT IS CLANWAR OF THE SEASON so just look and enjoi!
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27/03/06 13:18 #33
Khj(Archived)
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ToD wins 80% definetely unless he meets UD.Grubby scores unless he meets Moon.Fov wins 90% definetely.2on2 can go either way.While the stats I provided seems to show that 4K is in favour, its obvious that 4K will win 3-2 or lose for sure if they meet the wrong people.LUs FTW.
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27/03/06 13:26 #34
 bigred(Archived)
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4:1 or 3:2 for mym :)
kings of arrogance have to fall, gl 2 mym, gogo for 2.loss 4k
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27/03/06 13:47 #35
FreNzy(Archived)
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I think 4K will win this 3:2 or even 4:1
When Grubby meets Luci its gonna be a 2:1
FoV will beat moon 2:1
ToD will rule Susi/Eve/whatever
2on2 is gona be a win for Grubby/ToD
I think zeus will lose his game against storm ...
overall the Kings will prove their outstandig lvl of skill!
I wish you all Luck in the World :D
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27/03/06 14:13 #36
idanIll(Archived)
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Moon in anyway will beat any of 4K (may be except FoV).
Tod will win any of WE except Moon and Lucifer.
Zeus can win EVE or berA
Grubby will win any of T.MH except Moon.
So imo it will be 3-2 for 4K IF Moon and Lucifer wont play 2v2. If they will - T.MH will win for sure.
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27/03/06 17:04 #37
moe.(Archived)
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fov>= to everyone in t.mh
grubby can only lose to moon
tod can only lose to luci and maybe moon(but most likely not depends on maps though)
zeus can hold his ground but not sure about fury
and the 2v2 is pretty even if they play moon and luci together all in all 3-2 4K
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27/03/06 22:56 #38
FaR4(Archived)
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Dop3f1sH, you are probably the most retarded guy @ this page...you blame someone for being a fan of 4k, while being the biggest tmh fanboy (sry, hate this word) ever existed. plz shut up :(
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27/03/06 23:22 #39
 Dop3f1sH(Archived)
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#38 rofl, thx for the flowers xD
Yes I can't deny that I like some of their players but actually the main reason I'am hoping for 4K to lose is because me and i think many others here and else where are kinda tired of seeing 4Kings winning season after season again and making this league less exciting. I know it will be hard for ANY team to take them down but with a team like T.MH have now the possibility is given and the hope dies at last xD
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28/03/06 03:52 #40
Loktar(Archived)
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wakaka
4k 3 2 TMH
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28/03/06 21:44 #41
RoyalFalcon(Archived)
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Boyz ,why are u fighting with each other ,isn't it kinda obviouse,Moon is probably auto win even vs FoV.Grubby/Tod > Luci/susi.1-1 till here.Grubby(orc)>UDs.Zeus is free lose.so 2-2.ToD(hum)<UDs.By Ud i mean Luci and susi.if grubby plays vs moon then ToD plays vs luci/susi.and FoV will be the tricky 1 cause FoV=T.MH player(eccept MooN).imo it would be 3-2 either way.Anyway T.MH FTW GOGOGOGO T.MH .(i really want to see ToD raped by his opponent,cause he is weak vs UDs,did any1 see his reps vs MaDFroG?he has only got that mass towers strat):). #39 Dude i totally agree with u .:)#38 get lost 4K fan boy
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29/03/06 02:57 #42
Aktenverwalter
ESL Admin Team
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You should seriously stop that stupid flaming around here.
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29/03/06 05:03 #43
 xioyux(Archived)
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#41... where was his replay vs madfrog from? patch 1.14?
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29/03/06 08:18 #44
Juli(Archived)
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T.MH will own 4K u will see.
I think for a 4 : 1 or 3 : 2 for T.MH
You will see ;).
MFG
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29/03/06 08:37 #45
monosh(Archived)
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T.MH 4:1 4K (8-5)
i think this will be close, 4k could win with a lucky line up.
I hope to see Luci/Moon vs Grubby/Tod...
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29/03/06 13:27 #46
Sheitan(Archived)
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Will be a close match, both can win with the right seedings. But I think if Moon plays against Grub, T.MH] will win that match.
Grubby [1:2] Moon
ToD [1:2] Lucifer
FoV [2:1] Susiria
Zeus [2:1] Storm
Grubby&ToD [1:2] or [0:2] Lucifer&Susiria
4Kings [2:3] T.MH]
Everyone who has seen the online (!!) EuroCup matches will agree if I say that 4K will lose their 2on2 against Lucifer&Susiria :)
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29/03/06 14:22 #47
Bozzich(Archived)
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Depends sooooooo much on lineups...
history has shown us that NuKe is the better manager tho.
My personal prediction:
4K 3:2 (7:6) T.MH
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29/03/06 14:29 #48
Dilated-CKid(Archived)
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lol #41.
say me the date of the last win from moon vs FoV.
its LONG LONG time ago
coz FoV > NE. FoV > Hu FoV = orc, only his mirror is not as strong as his rest. so lets Hope for followinf lineups:
FoV vs Moon (4k)
Grubby vs Susi (4k)
ToD vs Storm (4k/T.MH)
Fury vs Luci (T.MH)
ToD/Grubbster vs Susi/Luci (4k)
in the end its 4:1 or 3:2 in favor of 4K
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29/03/06 16:40 #49
 GrunT(Archived)
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Go 4K!
3-2!!!
We c us in Köln :D!!!
Susira/Luci vs Grubby/ToD gogo.... think no chance for Mym...
Moon/ on Luci´s Side !!
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29/03/06 17:06 #50
madoldyang(Archived)
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If moon join into 4KING, the 4king is real 4 KINGs,
4k 1:4 Tmh
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